So we're back in the Shire until the new year. There are lots of reasons for this - stuff to do with work, stuff to do with shying away from "sociability" and because of the beer. Oh, the beer.
Someone has recently messaged me about what the beer scene is like down in East Sussex, compared to Bristol. They specifically wondered whether it was only about the Harveys. It has set me thinking about recommendations.
I try and read most of what Jess and Ray/Boak and Bailey write because I learn loads and love the way they write. Our most enjoyed beers and places rarely overlap all that much - but that's the joy of it all.
But because beer is a matter of personal taste, it also means I can't be sure that anything I say would land with anyone else (and that's fine, too - I mostly write this for my own amusement and to give me something to think about other than digital exclusion).
So to ensure you have an idea about my beer-drinking tastes and chosen venues:
I mostly switched away from drinking mainly 4% brown bitter around 25 years ago.
Bath Ales Spa in 4pint jugs to share was initially responsible for this.
However around 2008/9 I discovered the Barley Mow and started drinking "Sunrise" whenever it was available. I started helping at the Bristol and District beer festival, having been persuaded to be the set-up manager. I also started to learn about Arbor Ales modern beers and lost an afternoon to pints of cask Yakima Valley at the Three Tuns (what was I thinking?).
The first day the, now, Best Beer Buddy came to Bristol we went to the Cornubia, then the bar that used to be a place run by Barney Haughton in the main drag of the Harbourside and, of course, the Barley Mow. We still go to the BM weekly (often more than once) when we're here - we go to the Cornubia much less frequently and we know that we can expect a more traditional range of cask ales - often that's OK, but it's not usually what our preference would be.
Together the pair of us have migrated towards modern styles of beer and we tend to drink in a specific way. Anyhow, this is all a long way around of saying that we've drifted away from the drinking styles of many of our contemporaries and we rarely drink two pints of the same thing: we really value having several different beers in a session. I think I blame Tapstone Brewery for the "final straw" of thick, bitter, fruity hopped beers: it was a Damascene moment.
In all this context - how does East Sussex fare?
I'd have to say "mixed". I really only get involved in pubs/taprooms in the coastal stretch - we don't have a car and the public transport is very coastal road/rail biased.
Starting from the westmost bit of the East Sussex coast where it basically turns into Brighton you have "Lewes District" - main coastal towns are.
Newhaven: bit of a desert in many senses. In the summer Abyss Brewery seems to do a pop up next to the Marine Workshops and there are couple of pubs in the town - they don't look very "beer" focussed. There is a recent take over a Harveys pub which I really ought to check out when I work over there. Other than that - not really anything I'd make the No12 journey for. With some more investment underway in the town - that might change.
Seaford: The Old Boot pub is a huge "Sunday Lunch" kinda place, always in the GBG and usually has a couple of interesting modern cask beers (Arbor at least a couple of times) but it's not a place we really linger. Steamworks, at Seaford Station, on the other hand usually has cask and interesting keg available if we're in the area this is where we go.
We find The Cuckmere at Cuckmere Haven is best avoided. Massive chain pub which mostly relies on its positioning to bring people in - as a result, it doesn't really have to make much beer effort.
The next bit of the coastal residence is probably East Dean (technically, we're now in "Wealden" district). It's an undeniably beautiful village and the Tiger Inn is in a splendid spot. The beer offering is way better than it used to be so is a great place to have a walk and beer thing - not, for us, a destination in its own right though. Gun Brewery Beer often features, along with "Only With Love" and semi-ubiquitous Long Man beers. Often heaving, and really quite pricey.
Eastbourne is next on the coast. Harveys Best can be found in pretty much every pub but the bars/taproom type places tend to avoid it. We've seen a couple of blokes grumpily walk out of Wolf because Harveys Best wasn't available - only Star of Eastbourne (FFS).
Only one non-tied traditional pub (Bohemian), I think, so the best variety comes from the independent non-pub places. As a result, in town, we tend to drink in "Belgian Cafe", "Beerarama"", Wolf on the Corner", "Ninkasi", and "Frontier" - with the recent addition of the Gun Brewery Tap. Tied pubs in the main part of Eastbourne are, I think Harveys (4), Greene King (4), Brakspear (1) and pub cos.
Our home local (The Crown) is Heineken so no interesting kegs for us there - but there's always a couple of really good cask beers on and there are the beer festivals. The only other pub we go to regularly near home is Harveys but well kept and usually offering the seasonal beer.
We tend to avoid all the other real pubs in town. Such a shame, to be honest.
Heading west there are a couple of small villages/outlying districts (Harbour, Langney, Pevensey, Normans Bay) we have been to the pubs there but none of them would be a natural choice.
Then you hit Rother District - and Bexhill (includes Cooden Beach and Collington)- there's a micropub which wasn't my bag of spanners although the beer was pretty good, trad beers dominated. There's a pub which I think has just landed in the GBG - The Ruddy Duck: small but nicely curated range of beers, definitely needs a visit next time I have to work there. Also the Three Legs Brewery tap - again definitely needs a visit.
Into St Leonards (Hastings Borough) - punches above its weight for interesting places to drink:
Very close to Warrior Square station you currently have Heist (by Three Legs) and Collected Fictions (micro pub/wine bar), which major on f*cking hipster beer but there's also The Piper and the St Leonard who take part in the tap-takover and did a respectable job of it. Soon to come also the Hastings Project (CIC brewery) are going to open a pub just around the corner from Heist and the Piper.
A bit of a hike up the (steep) hill is the Tower which is pretty traditional pub, best described as a "locals pub" but you can't fault the range of cask beer in different styles they always have available.
Into Hastings proper there is the Seadog very close to the station. Not much cask choice usually but a decent range of keg beers - usually several non-big-brand lagers too which cheers me. Up the hill in Queens road is a micropub which is sort of OK but a bit quirky, further up is The Imperial which is the Brewing Brothers's original outlet. Always a great choice of cask and keg and a nice range of guest beers. Fab pizzas. On the seafront is the Courtyard which houses another Brewing Brothers outlet. Last time we drank Brewing Brothers the beer was really expensive - we ought to go back to check whether they're still an outlier.
If you carry on east along the seafront you get towards the old town. I haven't ventured into all the pubs around here but the Dolphin, FILO and the Albion were all pretty respectable and, in addition is the micropub (Fishermans?) which I understand is good. Probably the best for me around the Old Town was the Jenny Lind although I've not been there for a while. The pubs in this part of town do seem to be traditional in range.
Harveys is still well represented but a couple of Shepherd Neame places too.
The last place on the coast I can comment on is Rye. Only been there once but it's definitely a superior beer venue. The Ypres Castle was the stand out for me because the landlord is in it for the beer and he runs it as if he wanted to drink there. There were a couple of other places in town we tried which were very nice and with a good range for us to choose from. Unfortunately it's not a town for pleasant pedestrian ambling and as a result we've not been back yet.
So that's coastal East Sussex by beer.
The rural parts of the county can be quite sparsely populated with appalling public transport links and that also means that pubs can be few and far between. There will be some absolutely corkers - but I'm willing to be they will also be predominated by their food offering.
Lewes is the only non-coastal place I know in any detail from a drinking point of view. Despite what you may think there is more than Harveys to be had (though it would be remiss not to try the John Harvey - you won't get a better pint anywhere) but Abyss also have a tap room passably close to the centre of the town. Beak Brewery tap is a bit more of a pilgrimage on foot because of the topography of the town - but you could combine a trip to Beak with one to the Snowdrop which, when I went to it, was a really nice proper pub, too.
In central Lewes is the Gardiners Arms (my personal favourite for cask beer choice) and up on the high street are a few decent places including the Lewes Arms which, though Fuller/Asahi, keeps their beer brilliantly, does lovely food and is generally a really interesting pub.
In addition to ultra local breweries and more widely there's usually some Old Dairy beer to be had in town.
One new development on the rail route towards the coast is Glynde (home of Glyndebourne) - from having no pubs - it now has two. Steamworks (like in Seaford) at the station and a reopened pub also close to the station which looks like a cracker we've not got there yet. Looks good - likely to be expensive, I would imagine.
If I were making the move to East Sussex from Bristol now (rather than 14 years ago) I would probably think St Leonards was perfect for me and the BBB. Hastings Borough is one of the most deprived placesnin the country and that can make it challenging be in. But the quirky, independent nature of the place makes it very attractive and I feel very comfortable there. That's presumably why, the locals tell me, the place is full of DFLs putting pressure on the house (and beer?) prices. Maybe its slightly Bristol-like feeling is why I like it?
So the short answer is - yes there are pockets of good/interesting beer as well as Harveys (see also: Arundel Brewery, 1066 Brewery, Long Man ) and although it's a long way behind Bristol..it is definitely starting to get the idea.